Blunders 11:43 Tue Nov 10
Brian Clough: I Believe in Miracles
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Anyone seen this yet? Coming out on DVD/BR on the 16th.
Being referred to as the best football documentary ever made.
"Britain, 1975: Brian Clough is sacked as manager of Leeds United after just 44 days in charge. Seemingly impossible to work with, Clough’s only offer of work comes from a run-down second division club called Nottingham Forest, who are going nowhere fast.
Set to a fantastic 70s soundtrack, using unseen footage of games and the great man himself, and including interviews with every player from Clough’s European Cup-winning side, I Believe in Miracles is the untold story of how the team nobody believed in and the manager nobody wanted went on to beat the world’s best and become one of the greatest sides in British football history.
By turns hilarious, inspirational, emotional and epic, I Believe in Miracles is quite simply “the Greatest Football Film ever made” (The Guardian)."
I know it's not West Ham, but c'mon, it's a fantastic football story. And Clough was a proper football man.
Bonus points if you get the icon reference.
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normannomates
12:57 Fri Nov 27
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Brian Clough makes Jose Mourinho look like Glenn Roeder. Man was a one off..had principles and stood by them no matter what. Of course he had his faults..but I think his record speaks for itself. Plus of course...made a mug of Leeds tux and Don fucking Revie...love him for that alone.
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Rusta
12:37 Fri Nov 27
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What would the equivalent be now do you think?
Getting two different teams promoted to the prem and getting them in a champions league spot? Then doing what getting out the group? To the semi or quarters?
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Sven Roeder
12:04 Fri Nov 27
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There were clubs like Liverpool and Man Utd who were bigger than the others but when the biggest fee was £1m it was still possible for smaller teams to rise up and challenge. Now the players Chelsea have out on loan probably cost more than some teams first team squads.
Clough basically did it twice with Derby and Forest. A newly promoted team winning the league and then the European cup. Twice. Amazing and obviously is utterly impossible now.
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Blunders
11:43 Thu Nov 26
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It mentioned in the film that Malmo, who Forest beat in their 1st European Cup final, had an English manager.
Not knowing who it was, I looked him up... Bob Houghton.
What a globe trotting managerial career this guy had!
Lower leagues of English football, Sweden, Greece, Saudi Arabia, Canada, U.S., China, Uzbekistan, and India!
Could make an interesting documentary about him. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Houghton
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Hasans Fish Bar RIP
11:24 Thu Nov 26
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Sven
Id put Ipswich and villa in that bracket too. Still had your 'big' teams, Liverpool etc. But always a minnow sniffing around. Probably not in the same league as clough but what Robson did at Ipswich was impressive
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Mr. Burns
10:59 Thu Nov 26
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A simple yes or no would have sufficed thank you!
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Sven Roeder
10:58 Thu Nov 26
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Was the last era where managers had to manage with relatively similar resources. Of there were big teams and smaller teams but it was possible for a Forest or Derby to win the League under a superior manager. No clubs that have spent a billion pounds more than anyone else.
Lets see cunts like Mourinho with a squad budget that was identical to every other manager and see how special he is.
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Buster
10:56 Thu Nov 26
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Who didn't?
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Mr. Burns
10:55 Thu Nov 26
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Loved a bung didn't he?
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Buster
10:54 Thu Nov 26
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Fucking love Brian Clough. Proper manager back in the day when football was all about foottball.
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Takashi Miike
10:52 Thu Nov 26
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not at all blunders, you are spot on
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Blunders
10:50 Thu Nov 26
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Watched this tonight with the old man.
This is gonna make me sound like a very old 30 year old, but... proper football played by proper men back then.
50/60 odd games a season, on those awful bog-like pitches, only 1 sub per team.
And now the pampered poofs can't play 2 games in a week without being tired.
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Eric Hitchmoe
6:09 Thu Nov 12
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"I even led our fans to stand up and join in the "stand up if you love cloughie" song tribute at Forest when we played them the game after he died. Was proud of our fans that day."
I remember watching that on the tele, and when they naturally got a late winner, all the pundits were saying how apt it was etc. With the greatest respect for the man, all I remember thinking was "How fucking typically West Ham of us to throw this match away."
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Far Cough
3:16 Thu Nov 12
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Alan Hinton played at Forest but not while Cloughie was there
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SurfaceAgentX2Zero
3:12 Thu Nov 12
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Good point, well made!
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Far Cough
3:08 Thu Nov 12
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Kevin Hector never went to Leeds or Forest
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Takashi Miike
3:08 Thu Nov 12
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"I want no epitaphs of profound history and all that type of thing. I contributed - I would hope they would say that, and I would hope somebody liked me,"On how he would like to be remembered.
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SurfaceAgentX2Zero
3:02 Thu Nov 12
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Northern Sold 4:43 Tue Nov 10
Kevin Hector
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Blunders
2:29 Thu Nov 12
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYBj_qAJtRA
Throw your medals in the bin scene from The Damned United.
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Private Dancer
2:22 Thu Nov 12
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The Leeds Chairman in a raised voice during an angry exchange with Cloughie 'who the hell do you think you are?' Cloughie, remaining calm 'I'm Brian Clough, Brian Howard Clough'
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Russ of the BML
1:01 Thu Nov 12
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During his time at Leeds "Rome wasn't built in a day. Then again, I wasn't on that job"
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